Eddie
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Post by Eddie on Nov 4, 2010 11:48:23 GMT
The farm area as we call it is the outbuildings on the left hand side of the house as you look at it from the front.I think at the moment they are using this area as the builders (opw's) yard to store their machinery but have re-roofed the stables and house. My big concern is not only will we have opw vehicles coming through our peaceful housing estate and putting our children at risk but what happens when they decide to have a big concert again or a wedding before we know it we will have 40ft trucks bringing in marquees and stage equipment. We all seen what happened when Barbara Striesand played there, the estate and Woodview in particular was like a car park. It is time the Councilors of the area stood by the people who voted for them and put a stop to this not only for the reasons of open space and service traffic and rights to access but the down right disgraceful waste of public money which we all know we simply just dont have at the moment. The process will work like this. If they stick to the time scale the plans will go public display in 2 weeks time in the library afterwhich the general public have 4 weeks to put in their submissions. When all this is completed it then goes to a vote by the full Council which is all the councilors in the kildare area so with no disrespect meant we will have councilors from athy and further afield making decisions on something they will no nothing about,or will not even have seen the impact it will have on the estate and surrounding areas.They will basically make their decision on what the area councilors tell them and may take into account the publics submissions. Watch this space because there is something stirring among the residents to fight this.!!!!!!! |
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Post by seventwo on Nov 4, 2010 13:07:27 GMT
It is time the Councilors of the area stood by the people who voted for them and put a stop to this not only for the reasons of open space and service traffic and rights to access but the down right disgraceful waste of public money which we all know we simply just dont have at the moment. Watch this space because there is something stirring among the residents to fight this.!!!!!!! I see Emmet Stagg has his general election machine oiled and already rolling into action. Himself and the labour councillors are now seeking to have Donaghcumper dezoned. Where have they been until now. They claim to be doing this in response to the "widely suppoted local campaign." If Emmet thinks that locals can't see trough this ploy and he will win votes in the upcoming General Election he needs to think again. Wake up Emmet yourself and your Labour councillors are only doing the right thing and while your support is welcome don't expect any votes in return. All of ye should stand behind Catherine Murphy and follow her lead. |
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Post by The Raven on Nov 4, 2010 13:50:46 GMT
It was like a car park also in The Walled Gardens, during the Barbara Streisand concert.
When the OPW have finished beautifying the remaining areas around Castletown House and outbuildings, they will be looking for areas to provide parking for their unsightly service vehicles, out of sight from their new 'Farmleigh' style tourist attraction. This parking could end up inside the service gates next to the housing estate.
Eddie is right about the fact that councillors from the whole of County Kildare will have a vote on this. This is of serious concern to the residents of Castletown housing estate, especially those living next to the proposed fence, as it is only the local area councillors who are relying on our votes. Most of the others are likely to know nothing about Castletown housing estate, and even less likely to care.
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Eddie
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Post by Eddie on Nov 4, 2010 13:58:18 GMT
Your right in what you are saying but i would have to throw Kevin Byrne into the favour box as i know he has been actively fighting this for a long time along with Catherine Murphy.The other 2 labour councilors did vote in favour of the proposal and if they have done a U turn then that is fine with us whether for votes or not we need their support and it is welcome.I don't see anything from Senin Griffin Fianna Gael coming through the door or from Paul Kelly Fianna Fail who openly congratulated and shook hands we the OPW when the Part 8 got the go ahead.I say At least Labour U turned realised their mistake and hopefully the others will follow suit.
Your right Catherine Murphy is a True Councilor working for the people not just for the Votes but lets take all the support we get and leave the voting ploys for election time.
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Post by The Raven on Nov 4, 2010 14:22:32 GMT
Your right in what you are saying but i would have to throw Kevin Byrne into the favour box as i know he has been actively fighting this for a long time along with Catherine Murphy.The other 2 labour councilors did vote in favour of the proposal and if they have done a U turn then that is fine with us whether for votes or not we need their support and it is welcome.I don't see anything from Senin Griffin Fianna Gael coming through the door or from Paul Kelly Fianna Fail who openly congratulated and shook hands we the OPW when the Part 8 got the go ahead.I say At least Labour U turned realised their mistake and hopefully the others will follow suit.
Your right Catherine Murphy is a True Councilor working for the people not just for the Votes but lets take all the support we get and leave the voting ploys for election time. I presume you are referring to Seventwo's post. I agree with you completely, especially about Catherine Murphy. Seventwo, things have moved on and Emmet Stagg has responded to the Donaghcumper campaign by changing his stance. This is most welcome. He is also supportive of our efforts to retain the green open space of Castletown housing estate. We do indeed need all the support we can get. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail are lagging far behind as our elected representatives, in terms of supporting the views of the 2,000 residents of Castletown housing estate. |
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Post by Queenie on Nov 4, 2010 15:58:15 GMT
Hopefully all the councillors will stand behind you, but don't be fooled for one second that they care about anything other than votes. If it makes them look good, they'll be there.
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Post by joepublic on Nov 4, 2010 18:04:52 GMT
Still it's better to have them on your side as they are the ones that do the voting on zoning issues.
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Eddie
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Post by Eddie on Nov 9, 2010 12:17:31 GMT
Hi all Got a thing in the door last night from sos????Are these part of the CRA????They didnt mention how much the fence work is costing????Does anyone know the true cost of it cause i have heard its costing anything from €200,000 to €1,000,000????Imagine what better uses could be found for this money even if it was the lower figure????Cant believe that the councilors went and voted on a project without knowing the cost or did they and their not saying?  ?Maybe this sos will get answers or the support they need to get to the bottom of this? ?? |
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Post by seventwo on Nov 10, 2010 17:53:44 GMT
Are these part of the CRA????quote] I can't answer that question but it would seem unlikely because the SOS campaign is calling for support "in their efforts to prevent the erection of this fence." Meanwhile the CRA have had lenghty discussions with KCC and the OPW about the fencing off of this land. A large measure of agreement has already been reached between KCC the OPW and the CRA. The CRA have also explored the prospect of transferring the land to the OPW. (Details of the lease proposal have yet to be made known to the residents). With the launch of the part 8 process ,and so much already agreed between KCC, CRA and OPW, firm and swift action needs to be taken by the residents. Otherwise the fence will become a permanent reminder of, and an ugly monument to, the divisieness caused by doing business behind closed doors. |
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Post by The Raven on Nov 23, 2010 23:50:53 GMT
To anyone who wasn't at the Castletown Residents Association EGM tonight, the CRA members voted overwhelmingly AGAINST the fence. The meeting was exceptionally well attended.
However, it is not over yet. There is still the matter of the submissions to Kildare County Council, and this is the most important part of the process. It is vital that all those residents, who do not want the fence, do not forget to make submissions.
Residents at the EGM were informed by the councillors present that these submissions will not be confined solely to the quality or line of the fence, but could include all aspects i.e. we do not want this fence in any shape or form.
We will continue to keep you informed, and let you know when the plans are on public display, as they will provide a reference number which must be included on every submission.
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Post by seventwo on Nov 24, 2010 16:34:40 GMT
Well done . As you rightly say there is a lot more to do.
Any how the fence won't work:
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Post by seventwo on May 23, 2011 12:42:36 GMT
Closing date for submissions is 21st July 2011.
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Post by seventwo on May 25, 2011 15:26:54 GMT
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Post by joepublic on May 25, 2011 21:44:30 GMT
It means they can close off the Castletown Demesne to the public at closing times.
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Post by castletown on May 25, 2011 22:26:30 GMT
Having read the notice in the Liffey champion and talked with local councillors , I understand that it is proposed to run a new 800 meter stretch of fencing which will restrict access from the housing estate into the woods. Along this fence there will be 4 gated access points and these will open and close at the same time as the main Castletown gates , dawn to dusk policy. The details are in the liffey Champion. We can send in our views and the councilors will have the final vote on all of this.
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?Maybe this sos will get answers or the support they need to get to the bottom of this?