marie
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Post by marie on Jun 12, 2010 19:47:20 GMT
im with you here Marie, the problem is they don't want to embrace the 21st centruary and the practicalities of life.... ;D Thanks April!
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Post by floppy on Jun 12, 2010 20:42:14 GMT
I'm with you Mr Angry..if its jobs we need .... then there are many business premises empty that could be used for businesses that create employment (eg existing empty factory on luncan road). Building Apartments Shops etc that there is no demand for will create a new "building boom" for a short phase then empty premises and a spoilt village.
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Post by joepublic on Jun 12, 2010 21:47:06 GMT
This is me being realistic -- the developer's prime target is high rise apartments and houses overlooking the Liffey and the environs of Castletown Demesne, they will be sold with one of the best sales pitches you can ask for. A supermarket and a cluster of shops built around a plaza along with the apartments may also form part of the development. It would look something like Beacon South Quarter residential.beaconsouthquarter.com/residential.html#resiimages click on residential images. There is no chance of a swimming pool unlesss it is part of a hotel or leisure centre where you will have to pay dearly. You can put a McDonalds or a Burger King anywhere. A festival has nothing to do with Donaghcomper. A cinema is unlikely as there is too much competition around. The Setanta Hotel used to run discos but for some reason it attracted a lot of undesirables and kept Tidy Towns and the Gardai very busy cleaning up after them.
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Post by mrangry on Jun 13, 2010 6:42:24 GMT
Yep you said it all jp and without any verbal abuse or threats of physical violence.I can't live up to that standard. Why is building some monstrosity regard as progress?.I may be backward and primitive and happy not to live in the 21st century,but thats because Castletown and Donacomper etc. have nothing to do with the 21st century.
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Post by mrangry on Jun 13, 2010 6:46:04 GMT
And furthermore,I've said before and am happy to say again,yes,its very much a case of not in my bak yard.(which,by the way,does'nt look like it will be expanding anytime soon)
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Post by debs on Jun 13, 2010 7:22:36 GMT
Marie, getting work locally would be great but the reality is that most people in Celbridge either work in Dublin or will have to work in Dublin in the future....this is not unusual.
I am curious to know how true Celbridgians feel about all the 'progress' made in their town. They must feel invaded over the last 30 years. I honestly think house building in Celbridge should have stopped years ago. This is not what I envisaged when I moved to Celbridge, the population now is about 18,000...thats massive.
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Post by floppy on Jun 13, 2010 17:29:48 GMT
good on you JP you have a great way to make things crystal clear.
I was in the "beacon quarter" last friday and believe me it is one of the last places that i would like to live. I got lost on the way back and travelled by Dundrum "town centre" another place that would not be on my wish list of places to live.
It was lovely to turn off the N4 and drive down the Celbridge Rd and into a real village.
Beacon Quarter and Dundrum fine for shopping not for living in...ps for those who love the shopping..it only took 20 minutes to drive over to both places..I passed Liffey Valley with all its "progress" (another area not on my good place to live list)on the way so dont feel to isolated jump in your car and drive..
I passed through Sallins today new apartment there with shop space underneath them. Not one of the Shop units are occupied it make the village look awful...very deserted looking.
So fingers crossed common sense will prevail...otherwise there might be one extra house for sale in Celbridge...
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Post by April on Jun 13, 2010 18:09:38 GMT
old and new can compliment each other nicely.... a new bridge over the liffey would be a wonderful addition to the town, we are living in the suburbs and with a population of 18,000 people we need to get all the facilities and services we can.
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Post by floppy on Jun 13, 2010 19:35:23 GMT
April - we may need facilities but not on the donacomper site. I to would like a swimming pool and cinema nearby but put it somewhere else like between celbridge, maynooth and leixlip.
Having the bridge is not going to mean we get any facilities.
I think the bridge will bring the village to standstill... imagine driving in the celbridge rd and coming over the new bridge..come into the village...traffic chaos. The other option is to go up the tesco road.. this road is already a bottle neck the bridge will only add to that. I believe that road cannot be widen because of listed building. So the bridge seems pointless to me a bit like the famine rd - where only the developer (landlord) benefits.
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Post by April on Jun 13, 2010 19:52:27 GMT
thats a case of not on my doorstep..... there are 18,000 people in celbridge, the town needs more facilities because we have none at all and we definitely need another bridge and more facilities.
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Post by floppy on Jun 14, 2010 9:53:55 GMT
Donacumper is not my doorstep it would not impact my view from my house of effect my route to work. My concern for this site is that it is of national importance where it is located and is historically important. Once this site is changed it can never be restored so I feel its important to keep it as it is.
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Post by April on Jun 14, 2010 11:52:56 GMT
i meant in the broadest since of the word.... anyway no matter where in Celbridge this would be there would be objections..... there have been for the past 20 years....
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Post by sugarloves on Jun 14, 2010 13:16:20 GMT
more than that here in celbridge there must be with all the new houses built, i must look up whats the total here.
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Post by snapple on Jun 14, 2010 20:45:31 GMT
i am a young person living in celbridge and welcome any development that will give employment opportunities to the community and provide a place for young and old alike to go and enjoy themselves without having to travel. i think it is very narrow minded that individuals try to force their views and opinions on people such as April and Marie. I am disgusted and dissapointed when i read the sign that it is nailed to a tree on dublin road. These actions are preventing Celbridge moving forward in a positive manner.
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marie
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Post by marie on Jun 14, 2010 21:12:55 GMT
i am a young person living in celbridge and welcome any development that will give employment opportunities to the community and provide a place for young and old alike to go and enjoy themselves without having to travel. i think it is very narrow minded that individuals try to force their views and opinions on people such as April and Marie. I am disgusted and dissapointed when i read the sign that it is nailed to a tree on dublin road. These actions are preventing Celbridge moving forward in a positive manner.  That is exactly how my two eldest feel (they are 19 and 17)! I am sure there are lots more young people around Celbridge who feel the same.
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